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7 month-old crying for at least one hour every night

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10:19 pm
December 27, 2010


tian.tian

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At 4 – 5 months old, it took at least 2 hours every night to get baby to fall asleep.  After he was "asleep" he would still wake up every two hours to feed/fuss/resist sleep.  I've read Pantley, Sears, Ferber, Hogg, & Weissbluth.  In the beginning, we were bouncing/patting/shushing until baby fell asleep but he would wake up every time we tried to put him down; in the end our backs hurt, our wrists hurt and our throats were dry.  We tried Pick Up/Put Down – resulted in a very angry baby who proceed to wake up every 1/2 hour after screaming for 3 hours.  We tried Ferber with no change after 1 week.  Baby thrashed around so much, and got out of every swaddling method we tried so I was too worried that he would hurt himself if we did complete Cry-it-out.

 

So, where are we now?  We tried gradual extinction starting 4 weeks ago.  We got rid of bouncing, then we got rid of patting, then we got rid of shushing.  The first day we started, baby screamed his lungs out for over 3 hours before falling asleep.  The next day: 1 hour.  The third day: 27 minutes.  "Hurray!" – we thought we were on our way to getting nights under control.  Baby would still wake up twice a night to feed, but hey, that was still leaps better than before.

 

BUT.  Then we had immunizations on day 5.  Then we had the eruption of tooth #2 a couple days after. 

 

Since then, we have tried to remain faithful to our initial actions.  Baby follows the same bedtime routine he has had since being 2 months old (bath, massage, sleep blanket, story and nurse).  We put him in his crib drowsy and at this point one of two things happen:

1) baby falls asleep then wakes up after 5 – 30 minutes and proceeds to cry for at least one hour

2) baby starts to rub his eyes right away, then proceeds to cry, then scream for at least one hour.

 

Either way, baby is in his crib by 7 PM but he usually does not settle down to sleep until around 9PM.  While he is crying we sit by his crib with our hand on his tummy or back to make sure he doesn't thrash so much that he pins himself against his crib or rolls onto his tummy.  Once we get through this, we can get 2 1/2 – 3 hours of sleep in him before he wakes up to feed around 11 or midnight.  He tends to wake up to nurse around 3 or 4 AM but again can't fall asleep for 1 – 2 hours afterwards.  We tried moving his bedtime earlier, but saw no change.

 

This has now been going on for 3 weeks and there has been no improvement!  How long will it take for baby to learn to fall asleep?  I've been keeping records of his sleep and he only averages an obscenely low 8 hours a night!

 

We have not enjoyed an evening in months.  We dread putting baby to bed, knowing what's to come.  We tip-toe around the house at night after he's asleep, terrified of waking him up.  HELP!  Why is baby doing this???

12:59 am
December 31, 2010


Kimberly

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How much is he napping during the day? Also, can you post his daytime schedule- sort of something along the lines of what's listed here:

http://www.babysleepsite.com/s…..-schedule/

Sometimes crying at bedtime can be an indication of the wrong bedtime and if he's not getting enough daytime sleep, then he may be overtired by the time you put him to bed. If he's overtired from too little daytime sleep, then the first step will be to try and get him on a good daytime napping schedule. It may also mean that you try putting him to bed earlier such as at 6 or 6:30….depending on how long and when his last nap of the day was.

Kimberly

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4:48 pm
January 2, 2011


tian.tian

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His schedule is usually:

7AM – wake up, nurse

8AM – breakfast

9AM – nap

11AM – nurse

noon – lunch

1 PM – nap

3 PM – nurse

4 PM – nap

5 PM – supper

6:15 – start bedtime routine

 

Baby was/is a terrible napper too.  I decided to tackle his naps at the same time as his nights…about 5 weeks ago at the beginning of December.  As per Nicole's "Mastering Naps and Schedules", I started doing the nap hour.  We do our nap routine and then I put him in his crib while still drowsy and I sit by his crib with my hand on his chest.  At first, he would scream for 50 minutes then sleep for 10.  Thankfully, now we have more days when he will go straight to sleep for his nap; however, his naps have NEVER exceeded more than 1/2 hour.  Since starting the "nap hour" 1 month ago, the longest he naps is still 30 minutes, after which time he wakes up and cries/screams.  He has never put himself back to sleep for any remaining portion of the hour; he has not even got to the point of staying in his crib quietly for the rest of the nap hour.

 

I am so sick of hearing him cry every day for naps and at night that one week ago I decided if he wakes up after 30 minutes, I just take him out of his crib.  If he sleeps for less than 30 minutes, I will tough it out and sit with him for the rest of the hour to see if he will go back to sleep (so far, with no success).

2:56 pm
January 9, 2011


tian.tian

Member

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So, for the past week we have put baby to bed 1/2 hour earlier than usual.  This has not made any difference in the length/duration of his crying at night.  In fact, now he wakes to eat earlier and is waking up earlier in the morning as well (5:30 or 6 instead of 7).

This is pared with the obliteration of his napping.  It seems like any of the improvements we saw over the last month are gone and we are back to him waking up as soon as I put him in his crib and shrieking his brains out for the entire nap hour.  He falls asleep for 10 – 20 minutes after nursing at 11 and 3 but wakes up if I transfer him to his crib.

At this point I have considered:

1) baby is actually the child of a banshee and not a human being

2) there is something mentally wrong with him and he is unable to learn how to self-soothe and fall asleep by himself.

3) I should give up completely on trying any of this sleep training as it is increasingly seeming like garbage and I worry that all this screaming is causing baby nothing but harm (as I haven't seen anything good happen with his sleep habits).

 

Completely at my wits end after enduring 3+ hours of hysterical baby shrieking on a daily basis.  If it weren't for baby managing to be in a relatively good mood during the day I would also be screaming my brains out while hitting my head against the wall and tearing my hair out.

12:14 am
January 14, 2011


Kimberly

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Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that things are not going better for you. (Although, I did smile a bit at the banshee statement.)

Have you tried moving his morning nap up by about a half hour? Some babies, even at this age, are ready for a morning nap after only 1.5 hours of awake time. This would probably also move up his afternoon naps so that you are still at a 1.5-2 hour awake time. Then the 6:15 start for bedtime routing would still be good.

However, having said that. I just want to say, that it's okay to take a break from sleep training. Sometimes, just doing what you need to do to get him to sleep and then allowing yourself to throw the schedule out the window for a week or so and just go with what feels right. Taking a sleep sanity break just for a few days or a week is absolutely acceptable.

I used to think that sometimes my son would pick up on my stress during sleep times and that somehow this would just make him not sleep well. That might have been my own issue, but it certainly helped me to try and lower my stress level about his lack of good sleep.

Do you have a friend or family that can come over for a few hours and cover one of the nap time periods so you can take a little break? I had a friend come do this once and I think just the change of someone else taking him for a bit, helped him to actually go to sleep and rest during that time.

Naps are hard for quite a few babies at this age and if you can get the 30 minute naps, and he seems to be a good mood generally the rest of the day, then go with that. Keeping trying your sleep training plans to work on helping him learn to nap but it's okay if he only naps for 30 minutes too.

I'd also recommend focusing on just naps for now and and not nights. Typically, Nicole recommends getting naps down before moving to night sleep.

Kimberly

The Baby Sleep Site (TM)


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